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Re: Port Adelaide

Post by BloodnTars on Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:24 am

Hamish Hartlett been told to look elsewhere.

Port need to free up some salary to get Charlie Dixon.
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Re: Port Adelaide

Post by Booney on Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:11 am

BloodnTars wrote:Hamish Hartlett been told to look elsewhere.

Port need to free up some salary to get Charlie Dixon.

Bulltish. Hartlett will be an untouchable.
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Post by BloodnTars on Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:31 am

I would have thought so too.

Was reported yesterday on victorian media.

Port do need to look at moving someone on though as Dixon wont be coming over for chicken feed.
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Re: Port Adelaide

Post by Booney on Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:43 am

We've moved on Cornes ( my guess $400k ), Redden (250k ), Shaw (150k), Harvey (150k) , Butcher (275k) will be rookie listed and Schulz will be on much less coin next year than this.

I'd think about $8-900k plus would have been freed up from this year. Although, with Wines and Wingard out of contract end of next year I'd think of that $8-900 quite a bit of that will be heading their way.
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Re: Port Adelaide

Post by Glen Garbils on Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:19 pm

Port Adelaide fan wins AFL Fans Association Fan of the Year (Male),
The Alberton Crowd win AFL Fans Association Supporter Group of the Year.

http://www.aflfans.org.au/major-story-3/
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Re: Port Adelaide

Post by Gingernuts on Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:57 pm

There are some pretty good 'fan run' supporter groups that have emerged recently.

I'm a member of 'The Pride' which is probably the Adelaide equivalent of The Alberton Crowd (although TAC seem quite obsessed with the fortunes of their cross town rivals at times).
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Re: Port Adelaide

Post by Booney on Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:36 am

THE prized signature of Hamish Hartlett has been secured by Port Adelaide, with the dangerous defensive midfielder signing a contract extension that will tie him to Alberton until at least the end of 2021.

The deal makes him the longest-contracted player on the Power’s playing list, keeping him at the Power until at least the end of season 2021.

Hartlett, the Power’ highest ever selection at the national draft (Pick No. 4) resisted reportedly large offers from rival Victorian clubs to commit to Port long-term.

Leading up to his deal, he told portadelaidefc.com.au the only guernsey he wanted to wear was “a Port one” and that he was looking to remain based in his home town of Adelaide.

Hartlett originally played for inner-southern suburbs club Edwardstown and was drafted from West Adelaide, where his brother Adam currently plays.

The deadly right-footer has wowed Adelaide Oval crowds with a booming kick for several years, having overcoming early career injuries.

He told portadelaidefc.com.au after signing his new contract the chance to play into his prime with the Power was an opportunity he looked forward to.

“I love playing with these boys and look forward to getting back in November, having a huge pre-season and having a crack at season 2016,” Hartlett said.

“This a great club with great supporters and I’m looking forward to repaying the faith the club has shown in me.”
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Re: Port Adelaide

Post by Gingernuts on Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:15 am

6 years! Shocked

He must have a good manager.
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Re: Port Adelaide

Post by Booney on Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:39 am

5 years, he was contracted for 2016. But yes, it's a great deal for him and some reward from the club for a local lad staying loyal when he could have looked for ( I'm sure ) bigger coin elsewhere.

I'd say he'd have given up some coin for security, but in all honesty, if someone told me I had to take $450,000 per year for 5 years instead of $550,000 for 4 years I wouldn't be all that upset. Laughing
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Re: Port Adelaide

Post by Paul on Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:30 pm

Gingernuts wrote:6 years! Shocked

He must have a good manager.

Does he have the same as David Mackay?
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Re: Port Adelaide

Post by Booney on Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:34 pm

Paul wrote:
Gingernuts wrote:6 years! Shocked

He must have a good manager.

Does he have the same as David Mackay?

As long as you're only comparing the managers and not the players, that's ok. Laughing Wink
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Re: Port Adelaide

Post by Gingernuts on Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:31 pm

Ah David Mackay. I like to think of him as the last surviving Crowbot.
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Re: Port Adelaide

Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:33 am

Jimmy Toumpas to Port continues the St Michaels College connection.
(Brad Ebert, Matt Broadbent).

I am surprised that the Demons would let blokes like this go.
He is young, only had a couple of seasons and still developing.
They need these types I would have thought.

Sometimes I just don't get what clubs expect out of this trading / drafting stuff.
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Re: Port Adelaide

Post by Booney on Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:06 am

It's a tough one.

Melbourne have an appalling record when it comes to talent identification,so being taken by the Dees at #4 is hardly a true reflection of his ability.
For mine, he looks a little sluggish on his feet ( not sure why he keeps being touted as "outside pace" ) and his decision making not up to AFL speed. Having said that, I think he might be a capable player who is in our 22-25th picked range. Is he better than Moore or Young? Time will tell, but I guess the club has chosen Toumpas over an unknown second round pick up.
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Re: Port Adelaide

Post by Booney on Tue Oct 20, 2015 3:59 pm

Port give up #10 and next years second round pick for Dixon. Deal done.

Happy with that, bringing in a big key forward.
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Re: Port Adelaide

Post by Gingernuts on Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:28 pm

I rate Dixon. Good get that one.
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Re: Port Adelaide

Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:07 pm

Have the afl always allowed trading future picks? Seems a lot more prevalent this year.
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Re: Port Adelaide

Post by Glen Garbils on Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:50 pm

This is the first time ever for trading future draft picks:

"Clubs have been given the green light to trade future draft picks for the first time this year, but will only be able to use selections from one year in the future.
The AFL announced on 6 August 2015 that clubs would be given this additional trading option from this year's national draft.
The AFL Commission approved future trading on the basis it might assist competitive balance by providing flexibility for clubs in their list management decisions, but was also mindful of the risks to the competition given clubs now had more scope to make poor decisions"
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Re: Port Adelaide

Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:17 pm

It seems to have allowed deals to get done more quickly perhaps.
Just my observation.
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Re: Port Adelaide

Post by Glen Garbils on Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:52 pm

I agree, certainly seems that way.
The AFL appears to have given this one a lot of thought, maybe they got it right...gives clubs more options (but bear in mind any "poor decisions")
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Re: Port Adelaide

Post by Gingernuts on Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:56 am

I can't recall a more active trade period personally.
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Re: Port Adelaide

Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:59 am

The 2016 future picks seem to have been the buffer or filler in evening up what may have been otherwise slightly lop-sided trade deals.

Quite a few trades where the higher profile player leaves a club, also follow with him a second or third round pick for the receiving club.

It is quite intriguing how these deals are being rationalised in the clubs, particularly the 2016 future picks. To me, there seems a bit of a lottery about those.

But the list managers must be looking a bit further into the young talent pool as to what is likely to be around in the following year's draft.

There has to be witchcraft and crystal balls involved methinks! Very Happy
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Re: Port Adelaide

Post by Booney on Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:59 am

I think it's less complex than that. Get the desired outcome for the now, worry about the consequences next year.

All in all second/third round picks are easy to shuffle around.

For instance, I give you picks 24 and 49 and you give me 21 and 60. Once you get outside the top 20 in any draft it's more about your identification and needs than pure talent that everyone knows about.

PLUS the seemingly increased movement of contracted players, disgruntled second or third year players ( Aish ) and beyond the top 20-30 picks its a whole new ball game.
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Re: Port Adelaide

Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:16 pm

It is sort of heading toward the EPL.
A contract is just a means to trade based on numbers.

I agree if a 2 - 3 year player wants out, that seems to happen and they find a way based on worth I suppose. We're going to see more of this Aish / Carlisle type situation where free agency doesn't apply, but a deal is struck by other means.
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Re: Port Adelaide

Post by Gingernuts on Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:21 pm

I personally think that if a player is contracted they shouldn't be allowed to nominate only one club that they want to be traded to.

There should be a requirement that they have to nominate minimum 2/3 clubs.

I refer in particular to those players in their first 2-3 years that get drafted, have a sook and want out, and then force their club to do a deal with a top 4 club who has bugger draft picks.

Then as the reach free agent status, they can have more flexibility to dictate where they want to go.
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