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MATADOR CUP 2016

Post by Scrappy on Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:20 pm

MATADOR CUP
Starts October 1st

23 Matches to be played
15 NSW
4 QLD
4 WA
0 TA
0 VI
0 SA

The Cricket Australia Youth Team will be a 7th participating team again
CAYT is a 2 year project , this being the teams 2nd season

CAYT team is an interesting concept, being introduced in 2015
They won a game against TA last season
Will the team continue after this season ?


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Re: MATADOR CUP 2016

Post by UncleHuey on Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:25 pm

Depends how they go. If they are going to get smacked every game there's not much point having them play.
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Re: MATADOR CUP 2016

Post by William on Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:27 pm

I see a handful of games will be played in W.A this year, wondering if we will see a season were no games are played in New South Wales
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Re: MATADOR CUP 2016

Post by bayman on Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:05 pm

UncleHuey wrote:Depends how they go. If they are going to get smacked every game there's not much point having them play.

last year they got beaten comfortably in most matches but did pull off a win, i think it was against Tassie but i'll stand corrected, all they're trying to do is show the young players how to prepare & what to expect & obviously give them that experience
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Re: MATADOR CUP 2016

Post by Scrappy on Sun Oct 02, 2016 9:51 pm

Matador Cup
WA 9/242
SA 242 all out

SA were
6/231 [45.4]
7/239 [47.2]
8/240 [47.4]
9/242 [48.3]
All out 242 [48.4]

Ends up in a tye
If the rules were made that a team has to be awarded the win, who should it be ?
WA who lost 1 less wicket
SA who faced 8 less balls
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Re: MATADOR CUP 2016

Post by bayman on Sun Oct 02, 2016 10:26 pm

If its a tie its a tie, nothing else should be considered, nothing, not who scored more boundaries, more sixers, less wickets & so on,.....as for the match well the Redbacks didn't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory as seems customary but did snatch a tie from almost certain victory.....

Well done to the former Glenelg player Alex Carey on his 75 runs & being man of the match

I'll give another scenario on the draw, let's say Norwood are playing West in the last minor round match with the winner getting the double chance & the loser to the elimination final & the scores are
West 10.10.70
Norwood 9.16.70

Do think West should get the nod to go to the qualifying final or as it should be revert to percentage??
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Re: MATADOR CUP 2016

Post by Lee on Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:28 am

The Redbacks have a lot of promising talent.

They just need to get smarter. They play some dumb cricket too often.
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Re: MATADOR CUP 2016

Post by Scrappy on Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:32 am

Perhaps all tied Matador Cup games should have a super over to decide the winner
This happens in BBL cricket
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Re: MATADOR CUP 2016

Post by bayman on Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:53 am

Scrappy wrote:Perhaps all tied Matador Cup games should have a super over to decide the winner
This happens in BBL cricket

where do you put a stop to it ? while highly unlikely it does happen, so for the tied shield or test matches are we going to have a ''super over'' for them too ?

T20 cricket has it because it is just pure entertainment & is mainly there for just that along with the younger generation or people new to the game needing a result & it makes for good television
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Re: MATADOR CUP 2016

Post by bayman on Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:43 pm

Queensland beat Tasmania by 1 run today under the D/L method

for those that are home on Wednesday the SA v Vic match is live on GEM from about 2pm
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Re: MATADOR CUP 2016

Post by Scrappy on Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:56 pm

QL 5/158 [35.5]
TA 3/114 [19.3]

TA needed 178 off 27 overs
Were 3/114 when rain stopped play
TA were 1 run short
Duckworth/Lewis/Stern is OK to adjudicate a result , based on formulations
But it guesses which team runs, rather the best team on the day [or night] winning

If there was an uninterupted TA innings
TA needed 64 runs off 45 balls with 7 wickets left
DLS have given the match to QL

At 3/114 and no more stoppages
If I was a betting man I would have thought the probability of a TA win would have been about an 80% probability
That is 8 out of 10 times TA would win if they had a non stop chase
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Re: MATADOR CUP 2016

Post by Scrappy on Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:50 am

SA V CX1

WEATHERALD...141[104]
CAREY..............5 [4]
FERGUSON.......154[113]
COOPER............38[27]
LEHMANN...........0[2]
LUDEMAN..........22[19]
VALENTE............0[1]
GREGORY..........42* [24]
ANDREWS...........6*[6]
EXTRAS.............12

SA 7/420[50
CXI 318[42]

CXI won the toss ...

An Australian batting record for a 50 over domestic game

4/405 QL V WA was the previous best

RYAN GIBSON [CX1]
Has debuted in the Matador Cup this season
Made a hundred on debut
106
3
97
19
68 in this match

293 runs
58.60 average
87.72 strike rate

Gibson is only 22 years old
Obvious talent
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Re: MATADOR CUP 2016

Post by Scrappy on Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:57 pm

* How often do you see 2 batsmen, Ludeman at one end, Lehmann at the other , facing the bowler Feldman [SA V QLD Matador Cup match October 9]*

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Re: MATADOR CUP 2016

Post by bayman on Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:41 pm

Do the CX1 games count as first class one day matches ?
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Re: MATADOR CUP 2016

Post by Scrappy on Sun Oct 16, 2016 3:00 pm

There are 6 clarifications in cricket

TESTS
ODIS
T20S
FIRST CLASS
LIST A
20/20

LIST A is where the Matador Cup games are listed
Therefore the games against CX1 are counted in the batting and bowling averages , and as matches
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Re: MATADOR CUP 2016

Post by bayman on Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:06 pm

Darren "Chuck" Berry must be pregnant!!!! He just said at the end of the fifteenth over that "my waters have broken"
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Re: MATADOR CUP 2016

Post by Scrappy on Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:28 pm

POINTS TABLE

21 QL
17 NS
16 VI
15 WA
13 TA
12 SA
00 CXI

Prelim Final
2nd v 3rd
NS V VI
The winner will play QL in the Grand Final

SA needed to beat TA in the last match plus get 1 bonus point to play in the finals
TA 7/295 [50]
That meant SA needed to win in 40 overs or less to play finals
SA 267 [38.4]

BUTT
It ends up SA only had to win the last game v TA to make the final

The ladder ended up
VI
3 WINS
3 LOSSES
16 POINTS

SA
2 WINS
3 LOSSES
1 TIE
12 POINTS

Had SA won the last match they would have finished on
3 WINS 2 LOSSES 1 TIE
3 Wins and a tie would have meant SA finished on 16 points and above VI
Matador Cup rules are if 2 sides finish on equal points the side with a tie finishes above the other
So all SA needed to do was win the match
Bonus points were irrelevant
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Re: MATADOR CUP 2016

Post by bayman on Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:24 am

Its a Queensland v New South Wales final starting on Sunday morning
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Re: MATADOR CUP 2016

Post by UncleHuey on Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:04 pm

Amazing bowling performance by Lyon, 4 - 10 is tidy bowling. Neser then looked like it could be a close game reducing NSW to 3-19 in response but that was as far as it went.
Not a bad game to watch.
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Re: MATADOR CUP 2016

Post by bayman on Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:01 pm

Another final that was won by the toss, it cost the Redbacks' any chance to win seasons ago & yesterday it cost Queensland any chance of winning, if they are going to have day games, then start later on in the morning
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