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Post by Flag No.10 on Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:08 pm

Further to the above post, I've just read that some of the aggrieved parties are considering applying for an immediate injunction, which would leave the banned players free to play in the interim.

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Post by Booney on Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:56 am

Flag No.10 wrote:So if the banned Essendon players decide to appeal the CAS decision, is the ban set aside pending the appeal? Obviously this would render the top-up players superfluous and create yet another debacle.

The CAS decision was the appeal, last year the players were provisionally suspended ( that's why Petrenko et al played NAB Cup 2015 ) by WADA and the appeal was heard by CAS. So there is no more avenue to appeal.

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Post by mickyj on Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:06 am

Booney wrote:
Flag No.10 wrote:So if the banned Essendon players decide to appeal the CAS decision, is the ban set aside pending the appeal? Obviously this would render the top-up players superfluous and create yet another debacle.

The CAS decision was the appeal, last year the players were provisionally suspended ( that's why Petrenko et al played NAB Cup 2015 ) by WADA and the appeal was heard by CAS. So there is no more avenue to appeal.


So now some lawyers will be upset no new work for them
Lol
Still if they said yes like the NRL side this would be done and dusted by now .
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Post by Booney on Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:34 am

Flag No.10 wrote:Further to the above post, I've just read that some of the aggrieved parties are considering applying for an immediate injunction, which would leave the banned players free to play in the interim.

Yes, it would. In essence, the injunction is based on the AFL / ASADA making changes to the anti-doping policy while the CAS appeal was taking place. They moved the goal posts during the match.
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Post by Booney on Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:37 am

waddayamean wrote:No never said I did. It seems though if we PM you you will give us an Email address . So is that evidence ? My point is obvious, if you have an email address then post it as we can get it off you via a PM. No difference .I personally couldn't give a rats . Do you have evidence ?

This makes no sense, none whatsoever.

I asked lachlan ( and anyone else ) who has evidence to prove ( not just scuttlebutt ) that Summerton is "on the take" over and above his $400 per week.

Nobody has come forward with anything, nothing of substance. So I'm saying if you go down that path, claiming you "know" that's the case, then I think you're full of ****.
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Post by Flag No.10 on Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:54 am

Booney wrote:

The CAS decision was the appeal, last year the players were provisionally suspended ( that's why Petrenko et al played NAB Cup 2015 ) by WADA and the appeal was heard by CAS. So there is no more avenue to appeal.


According to Peter Gordon they have 30 days from the handing down of the decision to lodge an appeal with the Swiss Federal Tribunal.

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Post by mickyj on Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:25 am

Flag No.10 wrote:
Booney wrote:

The CAS decision was the appeal, last year the players were provisionally suspended ( that's why Petrenko et al played NAB Cup 2015 ) by WADA and the appeal was heard by CAS. So there is no more avenue to appeal.


According to Peter Gordon they have 30 days from the handing down of the decision to lodge an appeal with the Swiss Federal Tribunal.

Interesting if it gets approved top up players let go
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Post by Flag No.10 on Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:06 pm

I see on the Eagles forum someone has posted that Nick O'Brien has gone back to train with Essendon in the hope of being picked up, but will return to WWT if not.

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Post by mickyj on Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:11 pm

Flag No.10 wrote:I see on the Eagles forum someone has posted that Nick O'Brien has gone back to train with Essendon in the hope of being picked up, but will return to WWT if not.
Yep I read that Flag
Also read the pup told Essendon where to go
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Post by goddy11 on Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:57 pm

Have any of the SANFL clubs actually been notified yet of players training at Essendon? I have read recruits like Zac O'Brien, Nic O'Brien and Brodie Martin are in the mix

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2016-01-19/top-up-options-midfielders
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Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:58 pm

What a mess an injunction will make to preparations for Essendon and to a lesser extent Port, Dogs and Demons.

I read that Neil Balme has come out an said that the AFL should discontinue its following of the WADA code and promote its own. He cites the NBA and NFL as 2 high profile sports that do likewise.

Is this a feasible option for the AFL? Particularly if they are moving the goal posts on their own position with ASADA.

Given the hindsight the AFL now has, I am sure they wouldn't tackle their case for the hearing and penalising of Essendon the same way again. The backroom deals / discussion made that process more leaky than a roof made of chicken wire.
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Post by Lee on Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:56 pm

Balme, you're kidding.

'We don't want to be in WADA in case they suspend any of our players who are caught'.


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Post by Booney on Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:01 pm

LOL, yep, says the bloke at Collingwood with two blokes suspended drug cheats.

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Re: SANFL Statement = Essendon

Post by Booney on Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:18 am

I don't have emails to prove it, I never said I did, such is your lack of understanding of the matter, perhaps you need to re read the thread.

I've asked anyone ( lachlan firstly ) with proof to email it to me, I'll provide an address to send it to, I don't expect anyone to openly post anything that they are not comfortable doing so, I've not had anyone come forward with anything other than hearsay.

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Re: SANFL Statement = Essendon

Post by Flag No.10 on Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:33 am

I'll provide an address to send it to:

http://www.sanfl.com.au/contact_us/

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Post by bayman on Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:41 pm

Essendon fined $200,000.00 for occ health, the fine could have been up to $600,000.00 but the judge was lenient given the fact the AFL fined them $2,000,000.00.................which i query how can the AFL fine one of their own clubs when it appears they may've known more about it in the first place
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Post by countrycousin on Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:08 pm

goddy11 wrote:Have any of the SANFL clubs actually been notified yet of players training at Essendon?  I have read recruits like Zac O'Brien, Nic O'Brien and Brodie Martin are in the mix

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2016-01-19/top-up-options-midfielders
I'm assured by people who were at Sturt training last night, that Brodie Martin was there and training strongly.
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Post by mickyj on Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:37 am

goddy11 wrote:Have any of the SANFL clubs actually been notified yet of players training at Essendon?  I have read recruits like Zac O'Brien, Nic O'Brien and Brodie Martin are in the mix

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2016-01-19/top-up-options-midfielders

Reading the Eagles Forum our O'Brien might have been in melbourne for another reason
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Post by mickyj on Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:52 am

just been reading elsewhere
Obrien at eagles training
Luke Thompson has told essendon no to be a top up player
Redden unlikely to return to Power as a rookie ruckman
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Post by Lee on Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:18 am

I very much doubt any SANFL players will be going to Essendon.

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Post by mickyj on Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:59 pm

Lee wrote:I very much doubt any SANFL players will be going to Essendon.

Is that due to essendons history or only going for a year
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Post by Lee on Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:10 pm

Neither, Micky, just my feeling and I haven't heard of any club being contacted by Essendon.

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