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Re: 2016 Rule Changes

Post by bayman on Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:51 pm

Most of todays trial this rule had little if any impact although players were appealing for it every now and then, during the last term a Glenelg hurried kick forward went heading towards the forward pocket with 3 Sturt players near the ball & not one Glenelg player within 40 metres of them & you could hear the voices yelling out to ''let it go'' they did & got the free kick, in this instance they would have been better off picking it up & running it up the ground, but what i saw is why this rule should not go ahead, 3 players from one team happy to watch it trickle out, sorry but not a good look for the game
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Re: 2016 Rule Changes

Post by southern bulldog on Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:11 pm

Unfortunately i think they will bring it in leave the game alone
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Re: 2016 Rule Changes

Post by bayman on Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:30 am

i've seen enough, this last touch free kick has to go, tonight Willie Rioli had a snap very deep in the forward pocket (about 2 metres from the boundary line) & the snap went bouncing across the face of goal & eventually went over the boundary line in the other forward pocket, this player got penalised for attempting to score for his team, surely we don't want players kicking over their heads backwards to avoid this free & indeed stop them from having a crack at the goals & lets face it goals like that are brilliant to witness no matter which team he plays for
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Re: 2016 Rule Changes

Post by oldfella on Sat Mar 05, 2016 1:48 am

Putting it technically this test rule is crap and fot that reason alone the gurus at bullsh*t castle will probably want to keep it.

It should be dropped or at minimun amended so that if in the umpires opinion a team shepherds or does not try then no free kick!

We trust the umpires with many judgement calls so why cannot they be trusted to make this call.

Finaly for clarity this rule is crap
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Re: 2016 Rule Changes

Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:15 am

I just don't get why the boffins always feel they need to make the game something else.

Let the coaches and players do that.

What about a petition - "Stop messing with the rules - leave it be!"
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Re: 2016 Rule Changes

Post by bayman on Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:43 am

i'll sign it
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Re: 2016 Rule Changes

Post by William on Mon Mar 07, 2016 9:59 am

Will this be one of the rules that a big fuss is made when it is introduced, but as the season goes on we will hardly notice it or it will not be payed, example of such a rule not being paid is the deliberately rushed behind
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Re: 2016 Rule Changes

Post by Thiele on Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:12 pm

Rotations go up to 60 now.
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Re: 2016 Rule Changes

Post by firstblood on Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:22 pm

The out of bounds rule will stay, i was informed that most SANFL coaches wanted it scrapped after the trial games but the SANFL will continue with the rule for the main season.
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Re: 2016 Rule Changes

Post by bayman on Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:04 pm

firstblood wrote:The out of bounds rule will stay, i was informed that most SANFL coaches wanted it scrapped after the trial games but the SANFL will continue with the rule for the main season.

i'll take it we're the guinea pigs for the AFL....''they can trial it & if successful we'll announce it for next year''
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Re: 2016 Rule Changes

Post by Flag No.10 on Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:23 pm

It's really not so radical. It's an extension of the out-on-the-full rule, and is part and parcel of other sports like soccer, basketball, hockey.....sports that coaches have been happily borrowing defensive tactics from.

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Re: 2016 Rule Changes

Post by bayman on Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:29 pm

i just wish they'd leave the game ALONE
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Post by Flag No.10 on Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:15 am

They probably would if the AFL coaches did.

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Re: 2016 Rule Changes

Post by bayman on Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:42 pm

it was pointed out to me from someone more knowledgeable than me is that they didn't need to bring in another rule but enforce the deliberate out of bounds like the AFL has...................made sense to me
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Re: 2016 Rule Changes

Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:54 pm

If they would just enforced them the way they were written, it would all be fine.
Why can't the game evolve as the coaches and players dictate.

But even in the AFL coaches keep baying for amendments, so the vicious cycle continues.
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Re: 2016 Rule Changes

Post by Scrappy on Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:08 pm

Just a point of view

If a product or business is diminishing
Doing something rather than nothing is a logical thought process

You have to give some respect to the SANFL administration for trying

The WAFL and the VFL have had a BIG fall in recent times
Maybe the SANFL by being innovative and proactive could save the day
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Re: 2016 Rule Changes

Post by Flag No.10 on Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:07 am

Chambo Off To Work We Go wrote:
Why can't the game evolve as the coaches and players dictate.

It has Chambo, into a festival of tackling and ball-ups, 36 players on the ball at the one time and an over-emphasis on defence etc. These changes are an attempt to undo some of the ugly damage that coaches have done to the game in recent times.

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Re: 2016 Rule Changes

Post by Lee on Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:28 am

Having watched Sturt and North recently, both with ex-AFL coaches, I agree with Flag10 and scrappy.

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Re: 2016 Rule Changes

Post by mickyj on Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:29 am

Ok I saw most of the Eagles Norwood trial and all the trial against north
What I noticed holding the ball was paid a hell of a lot .
Deliberately out of bounds that's confusing most were paid some weren't.
I think the powers that be need to look at kicking for goal . A few times last week running in kicking for goal missed the goal bounces to the point missed the point goes bouncing for out of bounds paid as deliberate out of bounds . That is the confusing part not on the full but bouncing across the goal face and out is deliberate .
That's the part they need to look at for me .
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Re: 2016 Rule Changes

Post by Scrappy on Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:02 am


If you shoot for goal and score a point , a team concedes a kick off to the opposition
If you shoot for goal and kick out on the full , you concede a free kick to the opposition
If you shoot for goal and it bounces out of bounds , should the same logic apply ?
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Re: 2016 Rule Changes

Post by mickyj on Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:28 am

Scrappy wrote:
If you shoot for goal and score a point , a team concedes a kick off to the opposition
If you shoot for goal and kick out on the full , you concede a free kick to the opposition
If you shoot for goal and it bounces out of bounds , should the same logic apply ?

What I'm saying is it a deliberate out of bounds the ball is going for a score but bounces across and rolls out . Is that deliberate try to go out ?

And if it is a yes then there were a few that were not paid that should have been . and not the same one more like stepping out side the line handballing etc etc if the shot for goal is a deliberate then stepping across the line is also a free .

Holding the ball I dont have an issue with as both sides are forced to adapt which is a good thing IMHO,
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Re: 2016 Rule Changes

Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:38 am

"The SANFL hopes to encourage players to take the game on through the corridor and lift scoring, with the AFL vowing to monitor the new rule."

This is the bit I object to mostly.
Why is it the sanfl to decide that they want the game played through the corridor?
If they introduce rules to do that, I just think it is wrong.

Instead of minor tweaks, supported by the coaches, some of the rules (or interpretations) that get introduced can have quite large and immediate impact and not always for the better.

Maybe some of them assist in making the game look pretty. But most are either applied;
- inconsistently
- for a short time and forgotten
- with varying instructions from the umpires panel during a season.

It leaves everyone confused and does it ultimately improve the game? Maybe, maybe not.

If Clubs employ ex-AFL coaches with defensive mindsets, is it the rules that should change, or perhaps Clubs'collective thinking on the game?

To be honest, Clubs will look to whatever gets them a leg up in the short term and ex-AFL coaches are certainly in vogue at present. I am not criticising that as such.

But there doesn't seem to be much sanfl strategy on how it wants the whole competition (and not just rules / game style) to evolve. I just get the impression it is now more about reacting to what the afl wants to provide that evolution.


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