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Post by Paul on Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:34 pm

Carlton vs North Melbourne
St.Kilda vs Fremantle
GWS vs Geelong
Port vs Melbourne
W.Bulldogs vs Essendon
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Post by Thiele on Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:58 pm

Kangaroos
Freo
Cats
Port but come on Melb.
Essendon
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Post by Paul on Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:11 am

Carlton beat North Melbourne by 33 points.
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Post by valleys07 on Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:49 am

Did pick North

Fremantle
Geelong
Port Adelaide
Essendon
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Post by Paul on Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:53 pm

St.Kilda beat Fremantle by 58 points.

Margin was 75 at one stage late in the 3rd quarter.
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Post by Paul on Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:03 pm

Geelong defeated GWS by 7 points.
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Post by Paul on Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:14 pm

Port won by 3 points.

A fair amount of help from the umpiring, mind you.
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Post by Paul on Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:46 pm

Essendon beat Western Bulldogs by 7 points
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Post by valleys07 on Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:07 pm

Dean Cox has today announced he will be retiring at seasons end.

6 time AA, 2008 B&F and 2006 Premiership player amongst 250 games, fantastic career.
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Post by Booney on Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:18 pm

sapaul wrote:Port won by 3 points.

A fair amount of help from the umpiring, mind you.


 Shocked 

You were watching Port v Melbourne, yes?
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Post by Gingernuts on Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:35 pm

Every man and his dog could see you had a fair run in that last quarter Boonster!  Laughing 
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Post by Booney on Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:40 pm

Haha.... Laughing 

Not that the umpiring impacted upon the result.....just the margin. Wink 
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Post by Gingernuts on Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:47 pm

And Schulz' exceptional boot.

Melbourne had their chances to ice it regardless of the umpires. They didn't take them, and Port did.
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Post by Paul on Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:48 pm

I only saw the second half, apparently Melbourne had a good run in the first half? I wouldn't know...then again Port supporters whinged about the umpiring in the Showdown.
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Post by Booney on Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:22 pm

To be honest, Melbourne probably had the better of it in the main, Port probably had the better of it in the right areas. ie - F50.

Holding the ball again the worst "rule of the day". It was impossible to pick.
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Post by valleys07 on Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:28 pm

Booney wrote:To be honest, Melbourne probably had the better of it in the main, Port probably had the better of it in the right areas. ie - F50.

Holding the ball again the worst "rule of the day". It was impossible to pick.

That rule at present.....farcical is an understatement.

Yesterday I saw Viney get pinged holding the ball when he gathered it and was in the thought process of beginning to handball when pounced on by 2 port players, and got pinged. Would have had .2 of a second between possession and tackle.

I am bewildered at that interpretation at times..
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Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:35 pm

I doubt anybody on the planet knows what the rule is intended to police.
What is written is not the way they interpret it.
That they can "interpret" it differently without actually changing the rules is where the farce is.
Basically the afl can doctor rules to suit itself.

I watched yesterday's game and what they (the umpires) are doing is largely contributing to the unruly mess of a spectacle the game has become.

- far too long to blow the whistle for a ball up. Aka the "rolling maul". What a great name for it.
- what is a free for "in the back", "around the neck", "a throw" is almost as unpredictably bad as holding the ball
- they pick about 2 out of 5 of those transgressions and mainly when the ball is not moving.

If the free is there, call it I say. Otherwise why have the rule?
Players will adapt to how they apply the rules. it is farcical that they "interpret" them to make a spectacle. Surely the players make the spectacle not the umpires.

I just don't get what they continually try to make out of what is already a great game if left alone.
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Post by bayman on Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:22 pm

don't blame the umpires Chambo, they are only umpiring to instructions, the problem therefore is higher up than them
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Post by The Emperor on Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:21 am

there was a holding the ball decision in the last qtr

it was on Melbournes half forward flank on the western side

Melbourne had a 2 on 1 opportunity

a Melbourne player grabbed the ball and was immediately tackled quite well by Ebert?? I think it was.

if you watch it closely the Melbourne player wanted to get the ball out but it was Ebert who held the ball in - quite cleverly really, but im not sure how it was holding ball when there was no prior opportunity and the player pinged was the player wanting to keep the ball moving...
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Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:12 pm

bayman wrote:don't blame the umpires Chambo, they are only umpiring to instructions, the problem therefore is higher up than them

Yes indeed. Should have said that.
It would be very interesting to hear what discussion occurs between the Rules Committee and the Umpiring Director and then in turn the umpires.
How much of a game of Chinese Whispers is it?

It probably isn't, but you gotta wonder what the heck they are trying to do to the game.
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Post by valleys07 on Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:31 pm

Chambo Off To Work We Go wrote:
bayman wrote:don't blame the umpires Chambo, they are only umpiring to instructions, the problem therefore is higher up than them

Yes indeed. Should have said that.
It would be very interesting to hear what discussion occurs between the Rules Committee and the Umpiring Director and then in turn the umpires.
How much of a game of Chinese Whispers is it?

It probably isn't, but you gotta wonder what the heck they are trying to do to the game.

Nothing- its justifying their employment.

If you cant do anything constructive, **** off I say.
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Post by Paul on Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:52 pm

West Coast vs Richmond
Brisbane vs Gold Coast
Hawthorn vs Sydney
Collingwood vs Adelaide
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Post by testy on Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:34 pm

valleys07 wrote:
Chambo Off To Work We Go wrote:
bayman wrote:don't blame the umpires Chambo, they are only umpiring to instructions, the problem therefore is higher up than them

Yes indeed. Should have said that.
It would be very interesting to hear what discussion occurs between the Rules Committee and the Umpiring Director and then in turn the umpires.
How much of a game of Chinese Whispers is it?

It probably isn't, but you gotta wonder what the heck they are trying to do to the game.

Nothing- its justifying their employment.

If you cant do anything constructive, **** off I say.

Very well said   
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Post by Paul on Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:50 pm

Richmond defeated West Coast by 17 points.

West Coast would have only been a game outside the 8 had they won. They were ordinary.
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Post by bayman on Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:29 pm

Vickery will be suspended for sure, i'll guess at least 5 weeks but it wouldn't surprise me if it was up to 7 weeks..........i thought Richmond wanted it more & most definitely worked harder than West Coast for the majority of the night & deserved their win
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