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Re: SANFL 1960-1999

Post by rocket_rooster on Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:58 pm

C.K wrote:At first glance, Brett Zorzi looks unlucky to miss the Norwood team. Sits comfortably among their best in the 90's-onwards era. Versatile (one of the very few who regularly nulified Brant Chambers at his peak), exceptional leader and could fill a variety of roles.

Brett Zori only commenced at Norwood around 2005 so he wouldn't qualify for a team from the 1960s to 1990s.


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Post by Scrappy on Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:55 pm

North Adelaide from about Late1960s to 1999
Basically from a time I remember players from that team

D.HART.........D.SACHSE.....PARSONS

FRANCOU......LINDNER......D JARMAN

B STRINGER...A JARMAN.....PHILLIPS

J RILEY..........N SASCHE.....JAWORSKI

PAULL...........HAMMOND.....CLOKE

REDDEN
B ROBRAN
VON BERTOUCH

INTERCHANGE
ANTROBUS
J PHILLIPS
R ROBRAN

So many to choose from
Could have also included ,Allan ,Dietrich, Rebbeck, Campbell, Hearl, John Roberts and Sims- and several others
Im not sure if Nick Holland and Ben Hart played enough good games before being AFL drafted, to be considered
If I had a 1960 onwards team, I would have selected Barbary , Gilbourne , and considered Bob Pascoe

I didnt know what position to play Barrie Robran in
Centre and Centre Half forward perhaps, but I chose him as a ruck rover

Imagine seeing Barrie Robran take a high mark, as he is falling back to planet earth , handballs to Darren Jarman
Darren Jarman from 70 metres out dobs a goal
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Post by Scrappy on Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:26 pm

Flag No.10 wrote:I think Ron Kneebone and Ross Dillon are stiff to miss Norwood's team.

It was tough to leave out Ross Dillon , a good question F10
I consider Ross Dillon as a slightly better CHF than Johnny Wynne
Ross Marshall Matt Dillon was a star VFL forward, and came to Norwood at the end of his playing career
He did play very well in 1975 and ran 3rd, beaten by 2 votes in the Magarey Medal scoring 18 votes
Peter Woite won the medal with 20 votes  Peter Marker ran second with 19 votes
I choose Johnny Elbows Two Eight Wynne as he played much longer at the club

Ross Dillon ended up residing in Adelaide
He runs a popular News agency at Norwood

Interesting to note that neither Dillon or Wynne were selected Centre Half Forward in the Norwood team of the century
Neil the bear Button was selected at Centre Half Forward in that team
I had though Button was a better ruckman than a centre half forward

During this post , I have wondered if I could have sneaked Ray Button into the Glenelg team I selected
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Re: SANFL 1960-1999

Post by Flag No.10 on Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:10 am

Scrappy wrote:

Ross Dillon ended up residing in Adelaide
He runs a popular News agency at Norwood


I think Darryl Seekamp used to run a newsagency too, didn't he?

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Post by Scrappy on Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:59 am

Might be right F10
One of the Seekamps had a news agency from memory

Make James Allan a scratching in my NA extras  Embarassed
Like Brett Zorzi, played after the year 2000


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Post by rocket_rooster on Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:42 am

Scrappy wrote:North Adelaide from about Late1960s to 1999
Basically from a time I remember players from that team

D.HART.........D.SACHSE.....PARSONS

FRANCOU......LINDNER......D JARMAN

B STRINGER...A JARMAN.....PHILLIPS

J RILEY..........N SASCHE.....JAWORSKI

PAULL...........HAMMOND.....CLOKE

REDDEN
B ROBRAN
VON BERTOUCH

INTERCHANGE
ANTROBUS
J PHILLIPS
R ROBRAN

So many to choose from
Could have also included ,Allan ,Dietrich, Rebbeck, Campbell, Hearl, John Roberts and Sims- and several others
Im not sure if Nick Holland and Ben Hart played enough good games before being AFL drafted, to be considered
If I had a 1960 onwards team, I would have selected Barbary , Gilbourne , and considered Bob Pascoe

I didnt know what position to play Barrie Robran in
Centre and Centre Half forward perhaps, but I chose him as a ruck rover

Imagine seeing Barrie Robran take a high mark, as he is falling back to planet earth , handballs to Darren Jarman
Darren Jarman from 70 metres out dobs a goal

I agree with most of your selections, but no way could I have Darel Hart in front of the Ant. Interestingly in North's team of the century, Antrobus was chosen in front of both Hart and von Bertouch.
The North team of the century is considered by most historians to rank with Port as the strongest team of the century with West a close third. These teams of course are subjective.
I am thrilled that you put Peter Cloke in the team. I don't think that I have ever seen a more courageous high mark. Tommy Hafey, who coached him as a young man, once said that he ranked with Royce Hart as the greatest mark he ever coached.
I was wondering what "rover klller" Maurie Francou or his more skilled brother, Ken were doing in the side, until the penny dropped that it was actually Josh Francou. Where did Josh get his skill from?
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Re: SANFL 1960-1999

Post by Scrappy on Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:15 pm

FRANCOU
Yes it is Josh Francou!
Josh won a Magarey Medal before having an excellent AFL career
I could have had the Ant in for Daryl Hart , maybe the Ant was a better onballer, but I reckon Hart was maybe better around the goals

JARMANS
Heres a question about the Jarman boys
I reckon Darren was better at AFL level
In the SANFL , does anyone consider Andrew a better player than Darren ?
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Re: SANFL 1960-1999

Post by rocket_rooster on Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:53 pm

Scrappy wrote:FRANCOU
Yes it is Josh Francou!
Josh won a Magarey Medal before having an excellent AFL career
I could have had the Ant in for Daryl Hart , maybe the Ant was a better onballer, but I reckon Hart was maybe better around the goals

JARMANS
Heres a question about the Jarman boys
I reckon Darren was better at AFL level
In the SANFL , does anyone  consider Andrew a better player than Darren ?

The Ant was marginally better around goals than Darel Hart. I checked the North past players database and the Ant kicked 174 goals from 96 games at an average of 1.8125 goals per game. Darel Hart kicked 330 goals from 192 games at 1.71875 goals per game.

Many North supporters would think that Andrew was a slightly better and certainly more consistent player than Darren at SANFL level. Darren was more brilliant though. Darren's most consistent year at North was in 1990 when Andrew went to Norwood.
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Post by Scrappy on Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:17 pm

Scrappy wrote:FRANCOU
Yes it is Josh Francou!
Josh won a Magarey Medal before having an excellent AFL career
I could have had the Ant in for Daryl Hart , maybe the Ant was a better onballer, but I reckon Hart was maybe better around the goals

JARMANS
Heres a question about the Jarman boys
I reckon Darren was better at AFL level
In the SANFL , does anyone  consider Andrew a better player than Darren ?

There was an omen tip at Globe Derby just a few hours after this post
R4-8 Julius Franco
It won and paid $19-10
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Re: SANFL 1960-1999

Post by Scrappy on Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:28 am

WEST ADELAIDE

LUDERS.............MODRA......GROSSER

MUERET...........LINDNER......G HEWITT

FIELKE...............DAY..........EUSTICE

MORRIS...........BRAY...........POPE

D HEWITT....C WILLIAMS....KERLEY

REHN
RUCCIUTO
GRIMWOOD

INTERCHANGE
MICKAN
D HEWITT
BORCHARD

A dynamite forward line !
Can you imagine a pack that involved a marking contest of Modra/Luders/Lindner- wow

Some others that came into consideration included:
SPORN
LAMB
MCKINNON
A RICHARDSON
LOVEDAY
HOLLICK
KEDDIE
KILPATRICK
WEIDEMAN
FRASER
PATTERSON
KUHLMAN

How well did Keddie and Hollick play at Westies
Good enough to be in the starting line up ?
On VFL form Bob Keddie would be one of the first selected
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Re: SANFL 1960-1999

Post by C.K on Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:33 am

West fans would be mire qualified than I but personally couldn't consider Modra at full forward ahead of Luders. Luders one of the best spearheads Ive ever seen.

You have D Hewitt twice - again open to conjecture but I would replace the bench Hewitt with Adam Richardson.
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Re: SANFL 1960-1999

Post by Scrappy on Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:42 pm

Well spotted CK
I will leave Daryl Hewitt in the back pocket
For my team balance should I replace him on the interchange with Lleyton Hewitt ?
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Post by Flag No.10 on Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:17 pm

Darryl Hewitt wouldn't be allowed into the ground to watch that team, let alone play in it. Seriously, he was nowhere near the quality of the others named. Tyson Edwards would be a fair way ahead of him.
Also, you couldn't play Geoff Morris on the half-back flank. If he doesn't make it as a half-forward, and fair enough, he wouldn't make it anywhere else. Maybe Loveday in his spot.
McKinnon would take Hewitt's spot on the bench.

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Post by Scrappy on Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:35 am

I had to put Morris in somewhere
I could not fit him in the  forward line, even though he is named at HF in the WA team of the century
Sometimes when selecting sports teams , to squeeze players in, they have to be named out of position
I had listed Morris interchange at one stage, but how do you leave him out of a top 18 ?

As for Daryl Hewitt , I will replace him with Tyson Edwards , who played enough footy at WA to qualify

Robert Loveday is in the WA team of the century so need to find a spot in the team

What about this defence, for discussion purposes
Bear in mind the full back line could be better suited in other positions

LOVEDAY........BRAY...........POPE

EDWARDS....C WILLIAMS... KERLEY

Trevor Hughes was mainly just before my time, didnt see him play much at all , but did buy from his sports shop
He prob should be in a back pocket if i was born earlier

Question for F10
If I select Geoffrey Morris at Half forward, who do I drop Glynn Hewitt or Peter Mueret ?
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Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:22 am

If this is a sanfl 60-99 thread, I am not sure it is valid putting blokes in that didn't play or do enough for their sanfl club opposed to their AFL career.

For that reason I am not sure Modra even makes it. Certainly I would have Luders at FF. What he did at West outstrips Modra in that position. This opens up the forward line to put G Hewitt in a FP and Morris to HF.

I also think Loveday has to be in too at HB in lieu of Morris.

I can have people like McDermott in a Bays team and A Jarman in North team as they played enough good footy in the sanfl.
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Post by Flag No.10 on Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:07 am

Scrappy, personally I think both Glynn Hewitt and Meuret were better players than Morris, but Morris gave us far more service than Hewitt and Morris was also an All-Australian, so it's just my opinion.
I loved Trevor Hughes, he was my favourite player as a kid and I had number 24 on the back of my Westies jumper. Not sure if he'd make this sort of quality side though.

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Re: SANFL 1960-1999

Post by Scrappy on Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:25 pm

STURT

GREENSLADE.....WHELAN......NUNAN

GRAHAM............MOTLEY.......TILBROOK

MIELS..........HOWARD.....HICKS

HARDEMAN....SCHOFF........SHEARMAN

ADCOCK.........S NELSON.....KLOMP

DAVIES
BAGSHAW
RIGNEY

INT
SQUIRE
CLARKSON
CHESSELL

So many to choose from
I almost had Keith Chessell up forward , but Im a Whelan and Greenslade fan
I can just recall John Spud Murphy as a player , he prob should be in the team ?
Atkinson a bit stiff to miss out as a rover, however Rigney and Nunan were very good rovers
Was Doc Clarkson a pioneer of the checkside ruck tactic ?
Tony Burgan missed the cut , however   Hicks and Miels were superb wingers
Ive left out Todd Viney, but where could I fit him in ?

I wish I saw John Halbert play, so many accolades said to me by those who saw him play
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Post by C.K on Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:42 pm

Much as I loved watching Squire play, he barely sneaks into this team on era criteria - started at Sturt in 1999.
Otherwise, as a neutral who didn't see SANFL pre 1975, this is a pretty sound team for me.
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Post by Scrappy on Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:56 pm

Squizzy was a terrific player at North Adelaide
Debuted for Sturt 1999
He won the Magarey Medal in 1999 and 2000
He just qualifies
Rick Schoff was the only natural left footer I selected
Damien Squire makes it 2

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Post by Scrappy on Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:24 am

WOODVILLE

NICHOLS............J ROBERTS....K HARRIS

CUMMINS...........KLUG...........JACKOVICH

SEWER..............SIMUNSEN........MAYLIN

MCDONALD........TAYLOR........STEMPER

HOLLAND............ROGERS......CHAMPION

MCKELLAR
BLIGHT
HUPPATZ

PARKER
GIRADI
BOLTON

As with most teams Ive had to invent positions to squeeze in the talent available
For example Andrew Taylor was a super forward , and Im not sure Ralph Zip Zap Sewer played wing much at all
Ive listed the tenacious midfielder Kevin Harris in the forward pocket , as a second rover to Ray Huppatz


Woodville had a lot of terrific forwards, I could have slotted Malcolm Blight up forward as well
I could not sneak in another fav footballer of mine in Trevor Pierson who kicked 100+ goals in 1982

I followed Bob Simunsens career as he played cricket for South Australia and attracted my attention

Picking ruckmen was a task
I settled on  Craig Mckellar and Max Parker , and had to leave out Romano Negri and Colin Macvicar
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Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:51 am

Here's my Sturt Team

Nunan…..Whelan…..Greenlade
Motley….Halbert….Schoff
Burgan….Howard…Graham
Shearman….Nelson…Hicks
Adcock…Casey….Winter

Davies….Bagshaw….Rigney
Paynter, Clarkson, R Klomp

The one that I agonised over was Nunan.....78 still runs deep!
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Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:55 am

[quote="Scrappy"]WOODVILLE

, and Im not sure Ralph Zip Zap Sewer played wing much at all
/quote]

The grass never grew at Woodville on the HF flank where Ralphy did his best work.....rumour was most of it was after dark. Very Happy
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Post by Scrappy on Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:17 pm

WEST TORRENS
I was restricted with whom I could select in the West Torrens and Woodville teams
I opted to not include players who started careers with Woodville West Torrens
That limited who I could select

SCHIMMELBUSH.....MULVAHILL.......ROBERTS

MCSPORRAN.........SCHACHE..........WALLACE

LINDSAY..............HEAD................LONG

STRETCH..............COX................SHEARMAN

KELLY...................PILL.................PHILLIPOU

RENDELL
F BILLS
BIRT

INT
INGLIS
PAYZE
FALETIC


Other players that can be considered includes Billy Barrott John Graham , Johnny Cassin , Also Floreani, Slug Gibson Ian scruf Hanna and Troy Clarke and St Kilda recruit Jeff Sarau
Didnt see Neil Hawke or Geoff Kingston play, both had the reputations of being  excellent key forwards

Might have been hard for a couple of the key position players to concentrate playing football on Saturdays, the same day the races were on ...

I used to admire West Torrens footballers about as much as any opposition other team
They include
The iconic Freddy Bills
Rocky Roberts
Lindsay Head for his football and harness racing contributions
Ian Wallace who looked more like a rock star
Peter Phillipou
The magicinal Kevin Mcsporran, his skill level was almost Lindsay Headesque
And the inimitable Mulva, he was one of my heroes growing up , and a bonza bloke
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Post by Scrappy on Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:04 pm

CENTRAL DISTRICTS

EDWARDS..........JONES.......MULLHOLLAND

WILSON..........WRIGHT............SAYWELL

MCADAM.........SKINNER...........EUSTICE

G SMITH...........DUCKWORTH......JONAS

LEE...............B COCHRANE.......MOREY

MOORE
CASSERLEY
PLATTEN

INT
FARNHAM
HAUGHAN
NORSWORTHY

Others that just missed the cut include , Dean Mobbs , Roger Girdham, Richard Cousins, Brian Haraida, Peter milky Vivian Peter Bubner, Danny Hulm, Rick Macgowan , Rudi Mandemaker,and Peter Nicks
I could not consider Peter Beythien, a player I outmarked in an inter-Bank football match in the late 70s

A couple of players I didnt see but were players of repute were Gary Window and Tom Grljusich in the 1960s

Greg Edwards and John Duckworth were sensational footballers
Loved watching Wilbur Wilson and Sally Saywell - both left footed half forwards
I think everyone including me admired and enjoyed John the rat Platten play football, one of the very best rovers of all time
Special mention to Billy Cochrane a magnificent defender

CD didnt have premiership success in the period defined until 1999 , but they had some marveled footballers
PS, if this team played Norwoods best team, I would consider playing Trevor Roe, who engaged some very good tagging jobs on Michael Aish
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Post by Scrappy on Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:32 pm

SOUTH ADELAIDE

KANTILLA.....DAVIES...............OSBORN

BACKMAN.....SCHNEEBICHLER......ROBBINS

COOMBE......GOODWIN...............HATELEY

SCHMIDT......SMART..................WHITE

D YOUNG......D DARCY................KERLEY

DARLEY
SAMPSON
NALEY

INT
ROBERTS
KAPPLER
FRY

I did consider Danny Del Re who had a good season when recruited up forward
Do I Qualify Luke Darcy or Brendan Lade as the second ruckmen ?

Im not sure how well Bob Keddie played , on his VFL form a shoe in to be selected
Others that missed out include Matthew Clarke, Kym Koster, Matty Powell, Wayne Slattery,
Micheal Bennett , Stewie Palmer, David Stoekel and a a few more

I didnt see David Kantilla play at a venue, only on TV [ not  soap operas] so I have cheated to include him

Loved watching Peter Jumbo Darley late in his career in the ruck or full forward
Ron Hately was a brilliant winger who I marveled at how many kicks he would get
The player I enjoyed from an exquisite skill level was Graham Robbins



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