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Re: SANFL 1960-1999

Post by Flag No.10 on Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:55 pm

Yes Scrappy, Adrian Pope, son of Rodney as far as I'm aware.
I think in that game Port also kicked the first goal of the second quarter so it was 10 goals to nil. I'm pretty sure it's our biggest comeback in my lifetime.
It's also the game in which Scott Simister took his legendary hanger in the goal square.
We also came from 34 points down in the last quarter to beat Port at Richmond in 1983, which is one of the most enjoyable wins in my memory.

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Post by RODH2 on Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:58 am

I was at this game - at 1/4 time, My brother and I said to each other...."I don't think we are out of this!!". After the siren, West Adelaide Matriarch, the late Jean Luke, pretty much picked me up off the ground in a giant bear hug........ Happy days! Very Happy
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Post by Scrappy on Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:04 pm

RON ANDREWS

Played for Essendon, Collingwood AND West Adelaide
Played 151 games for ES/CO and missed 24 through suspension
His last coach at CO was Johnny Cahill
John 'lets back Jack' Cahill was coaching WA in 1985 , Ron Andrews came over to continue his liason with Cahill that season
Andrews kicked 51 goals that season , WA finished 3rd


Hers a yarn by Max Foran who came up against Ron Andrews when they were playing in the bush
Andrews had been playing up forward , he was called to play on the ball

" As soon as Ronnie got to the centre the complexion of the game had changed
He hit our young blokes at will and our skipper seemed to lose the plot
For one thing he had me, a bloke who would cut his teeth on the rough and tumble of VFA football, right out of the action
Every time I would creep nearer he would tell me to get back to position near the boundary line
My thoughts wandered, perhaps distracted by the stench from the pig farm next to the oval, when all off a sudden I looked up and realised Ronnie had aimed for me
Here was my chance to be a hero and turn the game around
I dropped Ronnie Andrews on the boundary line at Curlwaa Oval
Funny game cricket !
Ronnie went on to make 38 not out in about 15 minutes and Wentworth cricket club 4ths easily beat my team Mildura East."
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Re: SANFL 1960-1999

Post by blacky on Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:11 pm

i was a trainer at westies in the 80s when ronnie was there great guy and as funny as hell
is amazing the that the tough guys in footy are some of the nicest people you will meet and that includes
RAY HAYES the nicest blokes i meet at westies Very Happy
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Re: SANFL 1960-1999

Post by Scrappy on Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:59 pm

Hey Blacky
Andrews kicked 51 goals
What position/positions did Andrews play that season?
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Post by blacky on Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:31 pm

From memory across 1/2 forward line
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Re: SANFL 1960-1999

Post by Scrappy on Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:33 am

TOTAL AMOUNT OF REPORTS
I have no way of confirming this but here goes
Which 3 SANFL players have been reported the most in the 1980-1990s era ?
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Post by bayman on Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:55 am

In my time I would have thought, Granger, MacIntosh, Klomp & Salisbury, sorry if I’ve mis spelled any of the names, I presume Granger has the most games suspension because he effectively was given life after his last misdemeanour
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Post by rocket_rooster on Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:17 pm

bayman wrote:In my time I would have thought, Granger, MacIntosh, Klomp & Salisbury, sorry if I’ve mis spelled any of the names, I presume Granger has the most games suspension because he effectively was given life after his last misdemeanour

I think you are around the mark, Bayman. Years ago there was an article stating that Macintosh had been reported the most times in SANFL history with Salisbury and Klomp filling the placings.. Surprisingly Granger wasn't reported that often but he would have only played about 5 or 6 seasons.
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Post by Scrappy on Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:29 am

Correct Bayman/Rooster

Been told this , if true , I cant believe how often these 3 were reported
23 McIntosh
18 Klomp
18 Salisbury
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Re: SANFL 1960-1999

Post by Scrappy on Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:50 am

Bill Sutherland was the South Adelaide coach 1961-1963
During his coaching stint he once painted his house in Blue and White colors !

So he's the man who took South bottom the year before Kerley took them top.
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Post by rocket_rooster on Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:05 pm

Scrappy wrote:Bill Sutherland was the South Adelaide coach 1961-1963
During his coaching stint he once painted his house in Blue and White colors !

So he's the man who took South bottom the year before Kerley took them top.

Bill Sutherland was sacked part way through 1963 and he was replaced by Denis Parham.
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Post by Flag No.10 on Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:01 pm

Thanks RR.
I reckon I might have gone to school with one of Denis Parham's kids.

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Post by Scrappy on Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:52 pm

Interesting to note the season before Bill Sutherland coached
The previous coach had them for one season
18 played
3 won
15 lost
That coach was the legendary Fos Williams

In 1963 Bill Sutherland was replaced during the season by Dennis Parham
The question I ask, is did Bill Sutherland produce a core of footballers , that were improving leading up to Neil Kerleys 1964 premiership season?
Around Sutherlands times were players that include Darley, Schmidt , Skuse, Backman, White and Kantilla
I would think Bill might have developed those players , much the same way Robert Oatey[1968-1973] produced some good footballers inherited into Bob Hammonds Norwood 1975 premiership team

Bill Sutherlands son Don, a left handed batsman , played Sheffield Shield cricket for South Australia
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Post by Flag No.10 on Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:43 am

Scrappy wrote:
Bill Sutherlands son Don, a left handed batsman , played Sheffield Shield cricket for South Australia

And hosted "Sounds Unlimited". Wink

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Post by Scrappy on Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:10 am

Had an interesting discussion with a Glenelg man recently
We discussed which team has produced the better players in our time of observing SANFL football
My thoughts were that a Glenelg best would probably beat a Norwood best
So I got to work on NW/GL teams in this threads time frame
I can recall  great players from the late 60s onwards

I will obviously have left out some very good players , and may have overlooked players not listed
The criteria for selection is basically to have played enough games for the clubs
Therefore I cant name Royce Hart for Glenelg !

GLENELG

MCGUINESS.....F PHILLIS........CAREY

MCDERMOTT....S KERNAHAN....HALL

MARSHALL.......MARKER.........EUSTICE

COLBEY..........W PHILLIS.........MCKAY

R GIBBS.........WESTON..........JAMESON

KERLEY
CORNES
HODGEMAN

INT
COPPING
W STRINGER
SALISBURY

Cooments
That is a dynamite forward line, would there be a better one in this era ?
If anyone got injured you could slot in John Fidge or Norwood Premiership player Jim West into the forward line
I didnt have a 2nd ruckman listed as Peter Carey is that super he could prob ruck all day with assistance from Steven Kernahan, then rest Peter Carey in front of the sticks
Left out some really classy players that includes players such as Wayne Stringer and Scott Salisbury

NORWOOD

ROBERTS.......CARMAN.....TURBILL

JARMAN..........WYNNE......WOODCOCK

GALLAGHER...MCINTOSH...ROSSER

R JAMES.........G MOLLOY....BURNS

B JAMES.......WARHURST....TAYLOR

IST RUCK
BUTTON
AISH
R OATEY

INTERCHANGE
K THOMAS
CRAIG
ANDERSON

Comments
Old timers tell me that Bill Wedding was the best ruckman at Norwood, maybe so , but I didnt see BIG Bill in the 1960s
Left out some talented players that include Rod Seekamp, Craig Kelly and the brilliant Mark Jones
Ive included Andrew Jarman as, despite playing more for NA, but he played enough games and won a Mag Medal playing for Norwood
Selection criteria was iffy as I have overlooked fine defenders like Nathan Bassett and Rodney Maynard who are more recognized as AFL players

QUESTIONS
So which team had the better players?
Which team would win a fictitious game of football ?
What other great players could have been named ?
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Re: SANFL 1960-1999

Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:29 am

Just at a glance I reckon I would have Rex Voight in a back pocket in lieu of Jameson. I don't think he did as much at Glenelg playing mostly for the Crows I reckon.

I didn't see much of Kerley's playing career. Did he play much as a ruckman? He isn't that tall I thought. Carey was pretty dominant wherever he played which in my memory was CHF and then ruck. I would have him first ruck and Kerley somewhere else.

As for Norwood, I thought Carman played mainly onball or CHF. I don't recall him at FF. Can't think of too many changes there. But maybe did Winter or Stasa do enough at FB to get a gig? Warhust CHB?

The Bays purple patch was the 80s, so logical that the team has quite a few from that vintage. One thing is noticeable that a more Bays players went on to have significant careers the VFL / AFL than their Legs counterparts. Maybe as a consequence of the VFL's impact in purging SA of players in the 80s.
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Post by C.K on Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:14 pm

At first glance, Brett Zorzi looks unlucky to miss the Norwood team. Sits comfortably among their best in the 90's-onwards era. Versatile (one of the very few who regularly nulified Brant Chambers at his peak), exceptional leader and could fill a variety of roles.
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Post by Lee on Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:43 am

Kerley rucked sparingly. He was the 'ruck-rover'. You wuldn't pick him as a ruckman, but he'd be the first one you'd pick as the (nowadays) tough inside midfielder.

And captain.

And coach.

And drinking partner.

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Post by Flag No.10 on Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:06 pm

I think Ron Kneebone and Ross Dillon are stiff to miss Norwood's team.

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Post by Scrappy on Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:09 pm

STRINGER
I placed the wrong Stringer in the Glenelg team
Should have been Alan not Wayne

NEIL KERLEY
I dont think he rucked much at all at Glenelg
Having said that, I did struggle with finding  ruckmen
So I will make an ammendment and have Peter super Carey in the ruck
I will have Neil King Kerley ruck rover
Then place Graham Studley Cornes in the forward pocket
The other ruckmen I could consider are Bob Trigger Trengenza , Wayne Moose Henwood and Colin MacVicar

REXY VOIGHT
Yeah I did consider Rex but he was pipped by Ross Gibbs
Rex did kick 7 goals in a grand final , so maybe even a forward pocket

BRETT ZORZI
Yes very good player in the modern era, would have been a good player in any era

PHIL CARMAN
Played some good footy when at full forward in state games for SA

RON KNEEBONE
I never saw players like Ron Tank Kneebone or Alby Green play
I reckon from what Ive heard he would be a shoe in for a defensive spot
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Post by C.K on Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:47 pm

Lee might be able to verify if Green could outpoint the forwards of the era Wink
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Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:12 pm

Lee wrote:Kerley rucked sparingly.  He was the 'ruck-rover'.  You wuldn't pick him as a ruckman, but he'd be the first one you'd pick as the (nowadays) tough inside midfielder.

And captain.

And coach.

And drinking partner.

And enforcer!

Different eras but what sort of ding-dong would he and Wynee have?
Worth the price of a ticket alone.
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Post by UncleHuey on Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:05 pm

[quote="Chambo Off To Work We Go"]
Lee wrote:Kerley rucked sparingly.  He was the 'ruck-rover'.  You wuldn't pick him as a ruckman, but he'd be the first one you'd pick as the (nowadays) tough inside midfielder.

And captain.

And coach.

And drinking partner.

And enforcer!

Different eras but what sort of ding-dong would he and Wynee have?
Two blokes who would trt to smash the opponent into submission during the game and buy them beers afterwards.
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Post by rocket_rooster on Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:56 pm

UncleHuey wrote:
Chambo Off To Work We Go wrote:
Lee wrote:Kerley rucked sparingly.  He was the 'ruck-rover'.  You wuldn't pick him as a ruckman, but he'd be the first one you'd pick as the (nowadays) tough inside midfielder.

And captain.

And coach.

And drinking partner.

And enforcer!

Different eras but what sort of ding-dong would he and Wynee have?
Two blokes who would trt to smash the opponent into submission during the game and buy them beers afterwards.
I doubt if John Wynne bought anyone a beer. He was a tee totaller.
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