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Re: England V Australia Ashes 2013

Post by brodlach on Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:17 pm

Can see Bell and Trott batting the rest of the day out Crying or Very sad 
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Re: England V Australia Ashes 2013

Post by Lee on Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:20 pm

Yes, they looked pretty comfortable before lunch, but in cricket you just never know.

Another 3 wickets in the next session would be nice.

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Re: England V Australia Ashes 2013

Post by brodlach on Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:16 am

Finished 7/289
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Re: England V Australia Ashes 2013

Post by Gingernuts on Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:41 am

A shame that a cracking delivery by Siddle was undone by a centremetre or two. Could've had them all out for 200 - 250 if that wicket had stood.

Still, a great disciplined day of bowling by Australia on a batting pitch.
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Re: England V Australia Ashes 2013

Post by brodlach on Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:36 pm

Poms all out for 361
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Re: England V Australia Ashes 2013

Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:41 pm

I the think the tail got away from the Aussies in the last 4 or 5 overs. They shouldn't really have gotten another 70 runs in the 1st session. Poms were scoring at 8 an over at the end.
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Re: England V Australia Ashes 2013

Post by Lee on Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:02 pm

Notbtoo bad, though. It's only because we got 2 early wickets thst the last wicket p'ship was disappointing.

At 4/260 we would have happily taken 360 all out.

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Re: England V Australia Ashes 2013

Post by Gingernuts on Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:19 pm

The openers have shown good patience to knock the shine of the new ball, hope they can make something of it.
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Re: England V Australia Ashes 2013

Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:40 pm

3-53 The Aussie bats again starting to look brittle.

Hughes went to the DRS, but how far was the bat from the body with the shot.

Everything is becoming a DRS issue.
Rogers didn't but should have.
Watson was plumb and did.
Hughes was a bit inconclusive so the decision stuck.

They gotta take this away from the players.
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Re: England V Australia Ashes 2013

Post by bayman on Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:44 pm

Chambo Off To Work We Go wrote:3-53 The Aussie bats again starting to look brittle.

Hughes went to the DRS, but how far was the bat from the body with the shot.

Everything is becoming a DRS issue.
Rogers didn't but should have.
Watson was plumb and did.
Hughes was a bit inconclusive so the decision stuck.

They gotta take this away from the players.

agree with all that, as for Hughes how that can not be overturned is beyond me, he clearly missed it
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Re: England V Australia Ashes 2013

Post by Gingernuts on Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:07 pm

It shouldn't be a tactical thing.

Doesn't take away from the fact that our top order is probably the worst in the world at the present moment.

Watto - what was he thinking reviewing that?
Rogers - what was he thinking not reviewing that?
Kuwaja - what was he thinking full stop?
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Re: England V Australia Ashes 2013

Post by Lee on Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:48 pm

And it just gets worse.

6 for.....

Pathetic

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Re: England V Australia Ashes 2013

Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:15 am

Chambo Off To Work We Go wrote:3-53 The Aussie bats again starting to look brittle.

Hughes went to the DRS, but how far was the bat from the body with the shot.

Everything is becoming a DRS issue.
Rogers didn't but should have.
Watson was plumb and did.
Hughes was a bit inconclusive so the decision stuck.

They gotta take this away from the players.

The prophecy rings true?
Brittle doesn't com close. Kuwaja looks not even grade cricket standard.
Does it have to be 9 for, before these guys switch their heads on?

Fell asleep on the couch just after this, next thing it is 2am and we are all out 128 and the Poms were 2 for.
Went to bed in disgust.........
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Re: England V Australia Ashes 2013

Post by Lee on Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:45 am

Ditto.

On that pitch and fast outfield, the batsmen should have had a picnic.

Watson, like watching him bat, but he's dumb and selfish.

Rogers, values his wicket, a victim of Watson's selfishness, otherwise he would have successfully reviewed and still been in.

Khawaja, I'll hold judgement, but not convinced at all.

Clarke, a great and technically correct batsman, but always now coming in at a crisis time.  Liking his captaincy.

Hughes, better than most of them but not as good as we need.  His defensive technique looks like a crab retreating into its shell.

Smith, never liked him previously, but is one of the few who has contributed recently and has convinced me.

Haddin, hurry up and get fit Tim Payne.  A shocker of a 'keeper, makes runs now and again.

Agar, great prospect, but I wouldn't play him in the next Test because of injury. His time will come a bit later.

Pattinson, he's fine, but bowled terribly here. Really badly.

Siddle, can't ask more of him than what he's doing.  Backbone of the side player.

Harris, great effort, he can play anytime he's fit.

Apart from a couple of bowlers, it doesn't make great reading, does it?
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Re: England V Australia Ashes 2013

Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:26 pm

To Boof, there is one word that you need to teach and instill into all of them.

R E S I L I A N C E
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Re: England V Australia Ashes 2013

Post by Scrappy on Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:16 am

Ashton Agar has not taken a wicket since Broad was given not out off THAT non catch in the first test
That decision could ruin a career

Stumps day 3
EG 361
AU128
EG 5/333

Australia has had England 3/28 and 3/30 in this Test

Ian Bell was caught by Steve Smith off Rhino and was given not out by the 3rd umpire early in his 2nd innings

England no doubt a better team
But the DRS has been upsetting enough people in the first 2 tests
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Re: England V Australia Ashes 2013

Post by Scrappy on Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:19 am

redandblack wrote:Ditto.

On that pitch and fast outfield, the batsmen should have had a picnic.

Watson, like watching him bat, but he's dumb and selfish.

Rogers, values his wicket, a victim of Watson's selfishness, otherwise he would have successfully reviewed and still been in.

Khawaja, I'll hold judgement, but not convinced at all.

Clarke, a great and technically correct batsman, but always now coming in at a crisis time.  Liking his captaincy.

Hughes, better than most of them but not as good as we need.  His defensive technique looks like a crab retreating into its shell.

Smith, never liked him previously, but is one of the few who has contributed recently and has convinced me.

Haddin, hurry up and get fit Tim Payne.  A shocker of a 'keeper, makes runs now and again.

Agar, great prospect, but I wouldn't play him in the next Test because of injury. His time will come a bit later.

Pattinson, he's fine, but bowled terribly here. Really badly.

Siddle, can't ask more of him than what he's doing.  Backbone of the side player.

Harris, great effort, he can play anytime he's fit.

Apart from a couple of bowlers, it doesn't make great reading, does it?

I can sum your post on Australia in fewer words
1 batsman
no wicket keeper
no spin bowlers
good fast bowling attack
lack of DRS skills
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Re: England V Australia Ashes 2013

Post by Flag No.10 on Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:53 pm

That's pretty close I reckon Scrappy except I don't think the pace attack is all that flash either. Siddle and Pattinson bowled 40 overs between them in the first innings and couldn't take a wicket. When Swann and Broad tonked our pace attack around the ground for the last wicket the commentators said it showed how good the pitch was. But their attack then came out and knocked us over for 128.

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Re: England V Australia Ashes 2013

Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:56 pm

You just gotta wonder what is in their heads.

Watson again LBW playing across the line. How many times is this gonna happen????

Rogers leaves a straight ball and hits off.

My god, how bad is this gonna get?

This game is being played above the shoulders.
It is like footy a not so complicated game - ball on bat.

There is no wizard of oz, Dorothy in the tornado, no yellow brick road, just ball on bat.

I have a theory. The Aussies have for a long time scored at 4 an over in test circket. They have done that with batters who have averaged at least 40 for a long while.

The current crop are trying to emulate these feats with batters who average in the mid 30s.

England don't bat above about 3 an over. The South Africans are less. So if we try to play the way the previous Aussie crop played, given the less batting talent and the quality bowlers they face, we are on a road to nowhere.

Can we just see some resilience and shots for the situation. All of Australia is not asking for it to be pretty and free flowing - just accountable - that will do us fine.

A quick carrier pidgeon to Boof please to get this message delivered! Wink
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Re: England V Australia Ashes 2013

Post by Gingernuts on Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:15 pm

I agree whole heartedly with that theory Chambo. Australia were the bully boys of test cricket for the best part of a decade, and they've lost the art of true test cricket batting.
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Re: England V Australia Ashes 2013

Post by the prowler on Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:02 pm

We are paying dearly for the rotation system of not so long back, I wonder who thought it up and which Captain said it was a good policy and backed it up 100%. Chappelli would never have given that idea one iota of his time.
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Re: England V Australia Ashes 2013

Post by brodlach on Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:12 am

Embarassed Embarassed 
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Re: England V Australia Ashes 2013

Post by Lee on Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:22 am

the prowler wrote:We are paying dearly for the rotation system of not so long back, I wonder who thought it up and which Captain said it was a good policy and backed it up 100%. Chappelli would never have given that idea one iota of his time.

Agreed, Englan and other countries don't do it.
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Re: England V Australia Ashes 2013

Post by Flag No.10 on Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:57 am

I wouldn't mind Australia employing the rotation system about now; there's about 10 you could rotate out for the next Test.

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Re: England V Australia Ashes 2013

Post by Gingernuts on Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:06 am

I think our bowling attack is very good, I've noticed a bit of criticism but I don't think it's justified personally.

The have put in some incredible efforts already this test series considering their batters have given them absolutely nothing.

I feel for them having to try and bowl in a second innings like that when they are already 200 odd down on the card and no hope of getting a win.

Nope, our problems are firmly in the batting department.
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